teens kill a fawn with a hammer

[jakelittle]

LITTLE ROCK, Ark. (KTHV) -- Two teens are accused of luring in a tame fawn with corn and then beating it to death with a hammer in Camden.




Christopher "C.J." Bearden, 19, and a 16-year-old boy face charges in the fawn's death. The 16-year-old is a juvenile so he is not named. He faces charges in juvenile court.

The fawn named Buckwheat was taken in by a veterinarian and was 6 months old. Dr. James Rocconi told Camden police that someone told him that the boys went on his property and killed the fawn at Camden Animal Hospital on Oct. 17. They then took the fawn's body with them.

Rocconi has taken in several deer and had a pen behind the hospital where kids could feed and pet the deer.

Police say they found the deer's body at the 16-year-old's home. A detective says that he told his grandfather that it had been hit by a car. He says the teen strung it up to process it, but left it out until the next day and the meat spoiled.

Bearden and the other teen face misdemeanor charges of theft, animal cruelty and trespassing. Bearden was arraigned this week and his bond was set at $15,000.

[bowhunt3r]

What the hell is wrong with todays youth?

[IL 88]

what the hell? I'm only 21 but I really just don't understand some kids

[CBCS]

Couple of future serial killers.

[IA/MOhuntingman]

well "what is wrong with todays youth?" is a broad, sweeping statement. Me and my buddies love nature and love to hunt. We respect all the land and wonderful animals that god put on the earth for us. So not every "youth" runs around beating the crap out of tame animals. So..... "what is wrong with a very small percentage of todays youth?"... would be more accurate. Thanks. I understand that some people are messed up. and I am sorry that they are some of the members of my generation and that they make us all look bad. but every generation has spooled eggs haha

[BeeCee]

Wow. The grandfather made the statement, not the father. Oh shock!!!! Where is babies' daddy? Idiot......

[B-G-K]

idiots.... I hope they get the book thrown at them

[q-ville]

first animals then people! These kids need some help

[Banjo Man]

No doubt any kid that would do something like this has some serious issues. This is more than that old addage " They are just expressing themselves ". All the violence on TV, all those killem all video games, even some of the music, if one chooses to call it that, is all having an influence on kids younger than teens even. Not to mention that alot of parents now days allow their kids to walk all over them. Very sad indeed.

[bowmanhunter]

thats unreal

[Eric Everson]

should go and beat him senseless. Don't worry he will get the shaft greased up in prison literally then be screamen for his mommy to help him. I heard the old guys like the young ones.

[va archer]

That makes me sick to my stomach. Disgusting.

[BaxMaine]

I dont even know what to say to that, you really need to be f'ed in the head to pull that crap.

eye for an eye.

[bowhunter130]

Im a youth,,, But i would NEVER EVER EVER EVER do such a thing to an animal... I think someone them kids in with some drugs or something that they were on when they killed that fawn. Than when there close beat them to death witha hammer

[icedemon]

Originally Posted by IA/MOhuntingman

well "what is wrong with todays youth?" is a broad, sweeping statement. Me and my buddies love nature and love to hunt. We respect all the land and wonderful animals that god put on the earth for us. So not every "youth" runs around beating the crap out of tame animals. So..... "what is wrong with a very small percentage of todays youth?"... would be more accurate. Thanks. I understand that some people are messed up. and I am sorry that they are some of the members of my generation and that they make us all look bad. but every generation has spooled eggs haha

From what I've seen, unfortunately it seems like its the majority that are messed up in one way or another and youth like yourself are in the minority. I think everything can be traced back to using video games and tv as a baby sitter.

[Arrow H]

they ought to get beat with a hammer

[MS Sportsman]

These kids were obviously in the wrong, they were tresspassing along with a host of other things, but there are a lot of details not mentioned in the story.
I'm not defending their actions, but there are some very poor people in AR. Who's to say they didn't need the food. I would wack a deer in the head with a hammer if I needed a meal. I will say it doesn't look like this kid has missed too many meals, but some of yours posts seem awfull harsh considering the limited details in this article. I think people get way too upset over animals getting hurt these days. It would be different if they set it on fire or something or killed it just to kill it although they did let the meat ruin. Sounds like these kids really need some more involved parents. Doesn't mean they will be serial killers.

[daled]

you just cant disapline your children anymore like we used to get it!

[MS Sportsman]

By the way people all over the country pay big bucks to lure deer in pens with corn and shoot them with bows and guns. Only difference is these kids were not paying or didn't have permission to kill. The article does say kids were allowed to come on the property to visit the deer so they weren't even really tresspassing. I think they probably knew they were doing wrong, but its not a stretch to say a kid without good hometraining probably wouldn't think its as big of a deal as people are making it.

[SET THE HOOK]

little pricks!

[BaxMaine]

Originally Posted by icedemon

From what I've seen, unfortunately it seems like its the majority that are messed up in one way or another and youth like yourself are in the minority. I think everything can be traced back to using video games and tv as a baby sitter.

Im gonna have to disagree. This situation is really really messed up, most kids would never imagine doing something like this. Blaming it on video games and TV is what people like to do nowa days, but it goes deeper than that. Kids coming from bad homes, that had little to no parenting growing up end up like this.

[swampdonkeysk]

Originally Posted by IL 88

what the hell? I'm only 21 but I really just don't understand some kids

The parents!!!!!!!!!!

[rmkreman]

Those boys need professional help if it is not already too late. If you look at serial killer profiles there is a commonality of starting by killing/torturing helpless animals. It does not seem too much of a leap for them from ainimals to humans with a total absense of guilt/remorse.

[LeftemLeakin]

Lets say 1 swift blow to the head killed the deer instantly, would it still be animal cruelty?

[5MilesBack]

So, which is worse? Kids killing a fawn with a hammer, or the old lady that killed one with a shovel?

Of course the old lady probably doesn't see too well and might of confused it with a giant treerat.

[MS Sportsman]

Originally Posted by LeftemLeakin

Lets say 1 swift blow to the head killed the deer instantly, would it still be animal cruelty?

No people kill cows and hogs in pens the same way. The article doesn't even say if it was premeditated. The corn and the hammer could have just been laying around. The corn probably was. Its a deer pen where kids feed deer. What's the odds there was some corn around.

[swampdonkeysk]

Originally Posted by MS Sportsman

By the way people all over the country pay big bucks to lure deer in pens with corn and shoot them with bows and guns. Only difference is these kids were not paying or didn't have permission to kill. The article does say kids were allowed to come on the property to visit the deer so they weren't even really tresspassing. I think they probably knew they were doing wrong, but its not a stretch to say a kid without good hometraining probably wouldn't think its as big of a deal as people are making it.

Give your head a shake and if it falls off kick it. Theres a big difference between baiting a wild animal and killing them with an ethical shot then hammering the S**T out of a tame doe with a hammer!!

[MS Sportsman]

Originally Posted by swampdonkeysk

Give your head a shake and if it falls off kick it. Theres a big difference between baiting a wild animal and killing them with an ethical shot then hammering the S**T out of a tame doe with a hammer!!

Yea probably harder to get close enough to do it with a hammer.

[5MilesBack]

Originally Posted by jakelittle

Bearden and the other teen face misdemeanor charges of theft, animal cruelty and trespassing.

I can see the trespassing, and theft doesn't really apply as we don't OWN wildlife, but "animal cruelty"? The best I would say would be "hunting without a license". Whether it was beat with a hammer or shot with a gun or arrow.......now they're just classifying type of weapon. Just like baby Harp Seal clubbing.

[BaxMaine]

Originally Posted by LeftemLeakin

Lets say 1 swift blow to the head killed the deer instantly, would it still be animal cruelty?

They way it was done says a lot about the persons psyche. No doubt it can be quicker death than most bow hunting kills, but that's not the point.
Down the road if this guy goes crazy and kills people, and they say "we never saw it coming!!!" oh really? pretty sure he bashed a baby deers head in with a hammer... how much more sign of a psycho do you want?

[telephone man]

the fawn was bottle fed-not afraid of people at all-probably approached the guys to see if they had something to eat. then they bash it in the head with a hammer. pretty cold-hearted. the deer are in a pen behind the vets building. there is a feed machine where you buy a handfull of feed then reach thru the fence and let the deer eat out of your hand. they went inside the pen and killed the smallest, tamest deer in the pen. i dont know them personally but there is definitely something wrong there.

[djmaxwe]

Originally Posted by q-ville

first animals then people! These kids need some help

They need their a** beat is what they need.

[Martial Archer]

Originally Posted by MS Sportsman

These kids were obviously in the wrong, they were tresspassing along with a host of other things, but there are a lot of details not mentioned in the story.
I'm not defending their actions, but there are some very poor people in AR. Who's to say they didn't need the food. I would wack a deer in the head with a hammer if I needed a meal. I will say it doesn't look like this kid has missed too many meals, but some of yours posts seem awfull harsh considering the limited details in this article. I think people get way too upset over animals getting hurt these days. It would be different if they set it on fire or something or killed it just to kill it although they did let the meat ruin. Sounds like these kids really need some more involved parents. Doesn't mean they will be serial killers.

Originally Posted by MS Sportsman

By the way people all over the country pay big bucks to lure deer in pens with corn and shoot them with bows and guns. Only difference is these kids were not paying or didn't have permission to kill. The article does say kids were allowed to come on the property to visit the deer so they weren't even really tresspassing. I think they probably knew they were doing wrong, but its not a stretch to say a kid without good hometraining probably wouldn't think its as big of a deal as people are making it.

I was gonna go into a long monologue on how this is pure BS, & that it is this kind of rationalizing attitude that has helped create the epidemic of anti-social behaviors that are sweeping through so many of our country's youth, but I won't.

Instead, I'll just say that the story is both sad and sickening. I hope both offenders receive the full width of the punishment they deserve!

[MushroomHound]

Originally Posted by bowhunt3r

What the hell is wrong with todays youth?

Well look at him... Straight out of Deliverance..

[rogbu38]

Sickening!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[5MilesBack]

Originally Posted by BaxMaine

pretty sure he bashed a baby deers head in with a hammer... how much more sign of a psycho do you want?

Pretty sure a lot of PETA folks think hunters are psycho. Lots of people think the Harp Seal clubbers are psycho. What about the farmers that drown the litter of kittens to control their population (pretty common practice)? Are they psycho too? Slaughterhouses use a blunt rod to the forehead........are they all psycho? Does type of weapon determine if someone is psycho? Number of blows? Number of shots? Who's qualified to determine psycho? Please don't say "psychiatrists".

The fact that they "strung the fawn up to process it" makes me wonder just what their intentions were.

[BaxMaine]

Originally Posted by 5MilesBack

Pretty sure a lot of PETA folks think hunters are psycho. Lots of people think the Harp Seal clubbers are psycho. What about the farmers that drown the litter of kittens to control their population (pretty common practice)? Are they psycho too?

Yea, I think they are.

Slaughter house's being the exception, I believe they use a pneumatic rod to make their kills, not beat them to death with it. Its literally just like a gunshot, but much safer seeing as they are in a confined area.

PETA members lack common sense, so what they think really doesn't matter.

Farmers drowning kittens? That's pretty f'ed. I know it happens, but making a quick sign that says "FREE KITTENS" works wonders.

To go into a fence off area to beat a baby deer with a hammer is psycho. As much as a disagree with people doing some of the above things you posted, at least they are doing it to make a living, and not to get their nuts off by beating animals with a hammer.

[S2wham]

thats disgusting to hear............!!!!!!!!

[swampdonkeysk]

By the way these guys are not kids, ones almost an adult and the other is old enough to have a drivers license, its not like they didn't know what they were doing and that it wasn't against the law. Anyone that defends these guys are the reason the youth these days have no respect for anything because they have someone(parents) defending they actions. If I did that when I was a teen my old man would of took me out and beat me like a red headed step child.

[5MilesBack]

Originally Posted by BaxMaine

PETA members lack common sense, so what they think really doesn't matter.

Well, you've just ruled out most of the populations opinions with this statement. So, we can choose whose opinions matter and whose don't? OK, I choose that your opinion doesn't matter.

Think about it.........if we as hunters determine that using a hammer is psycho.......then it's not much of a stretch for society (i.e. non-hunters and anti-hunters) to determine that any weapon used is psycho. The end result is the same.......dead animal. Are they psycho because it was a fawn? Careful.......lots of fawns shot during hunting season. Are they psycho because it was in a pen? Lots of HF hunts, and those guys aren't considered psycho. So, what's it come down to?

I am certainly not defending these guys......what they did was wrong. But whether they used a gun, bow, knife, hammer, shovel, machete, screwdriver, vehicle, etc, etc,.........the end result was the same........fawn strung up for processing. Type of weapon determines psychosis??? Better watch what we're doing.