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Looking for advice on fiber optic sight pins

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#1 ·
I've been looking at the new Achieve Curve RX Pro sight pin and their Fire Ring pin. They off the fiber in 3 diameters (.010", .019", and .029") and 4 colors (green, red, yellow, and blue). That's 12 combinations at $25 a pop.

Are there general recommendations for pin diameters and colors based on indoor vs outdoor shooting, or does it basically come down to personal preference (and maybe physiology)? Are there trade-offs between the various diameters?

In case it matters, I'm a 54-year-old male who picked up a bow for the first time about 2 years ago. I currently average about 260/300 at 18m, and 275/360 outdoors at 70m. I shoot 3-4 times per week. I'm working with a coach weekly and seeing steady improvement. In any given week I'll shoot both indoors and outdoors. I shoot at at several different ranges with varying lighting conditions.

SF Forged Plus riser (blue); Jager Best 2.0 Medium grip; W&W Winex limbs (40# medium); 28" draw length, 41# OTF; Axcel Achieve RCB sight with Gas Pro aperture (black dot); W&W HMC+ stabs, Shrewd adjustable V-Bar; homemade weights; Shibuya plunger; Hoyt Super Rest.

Thanks in advance.

Kevin
 
#2 ·
Nobody sees what you see, nobody knows what your visual acuity is. So nobody can make a suggestion regarding a specific item for you with any degree of confidence of it being helpful. So yes, personal preference.

I'd advise you to stick with your current black dot unless there's a reason you are having an issue. Good contrast against any target face you're going to aim at (except field, so maybe get the same pin with a red dot for that).

My personal experience with fiber optics in non-magnifying sights is that they light up well under certain conditions but are next to useless in very bright light sunlight and under some types of indoor lighting.
 
#3 ·
Thanks for the input. I am occasionally encountering an issue with the black dot. There are times when the 70 meter target is shaded by trees behind and above it, creating less-than-optimal contrast with the black dot. This happened again yesterday, and I was wondering if a fiber optic sight pin would have improved the contrast. On the other hand, I am sometimes shooting from a shaded shooting line, so that will probably decrease the usefulness of the fiber optic pin.

I'm assuming the yellow pin is NOT recommended in any size.
 
#4 ·
My experience with fiber optics is almost exclusively in compound bows. I tried using them very briefly on the recurve and gave up quickly. What I learned for me based on how MY crappy eyes see. This "based on" is important. I have other compound buddies that have different eyes and would give you slightly different answers.

1) Any pin at all puts me in " compound mode" where I think I can hold MUCH longer than I really can. I wouldn't call it target panic, but it does NOT work for me.

2) most pins do not light up well with fluorescent lighting typical of virtually every indoor range I've shot (they are MUCH better in natural light)

3) The yellow pin could be super bright and I still don't see it well or like it on any target face...especially the FITA face.

4) Red seems to be the most sensitive to the type of ambient light. Great outdoors, but pretty dim under fluorescent. LED sight light helps a lot with this issue indoors. I don't think a sight light is legal on an Olympic rig.

5) green is the least sensitive to the type of light and the easiest for my eyes to see on most any background. I use a green pin on my single pin compound scopes for this reason, and it seems to provide good contrast to most target faces.

6) Lots of compound guys swear by blue fibers. To me,, Blue seems to not like any light...no good indoors and not much better outdoors....until you hit it with light from a UV led.

7) I used to shoot 0.010 fibers. My eyes have degraded enough that I prefer 0.019 on my compounds now. I think if I could see a 0.010 pin on a recurve, it would make comment #1 more of an issue. Never tried 0.029 so no comment there.

I have a used titan aperture that I got when I bought a used sight. It did not come with a drilled lens. I didn't like it much, but my daughter does. We put a bright orange stick-on dot (maybe 3/32" dia?) on the lens and for her eyes that works. On bright targets, the dot becomes a shadow. On dark targets, she says she can pick up the orange color of the dot for contrast.

If you already have an aperture with a lens (you mentioned a black dot) you may try a different color dot as a cheap experiment vs a very spendy new aperture. :)
 
#5 ·
Thanks for your insights. I'm thinking that a .019" green fiber might be a good place to start.

If you already have an aperture with a lens (you mentioned a black dot) you may try a different color dot as a cheap experiment vs a very spendy new aperture. :)
My window for buying spendy trinkets will be closing soon. I've been working on an international assignment for a while, and I have a monthly budget that I choose how to divide between living expenses and archery (I recognize the redundancy here). Once the assignment is over, I'll have to be able to justify these purchases to my wife. :)
 
#7 ·
You can change/replace the fiber yourself, so your major decision if you choose to go with fiber is the diameter.
I would probably rule out yellow for obvious reason of lack of contrast with the center scoring color, leaving Red, Green, and Blue as the viable choices. Blue is my favorite outdoor, but sometimes is not bright enough if the sun is shining directly on a yellow scoring area. Blue is useless indoor without a light kit. So for an all-purpose fiber Red or Green.

I shoot compound with a lens, but I use .019 blue outdoor, .019 blue indoor with a light kit (when legal). .019 Red for FITA/WA when lights are not permitted.